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		<title>Parents PlaceComment on 9 Questions That Stump Every Pro-Vaccine Advocate by </title>
		<link>http://www.parentsplace.ca/2011/01/9-questions-that-stump-every-pro-vaccine-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-1252</link>
		<dc:creator>Parents Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have not countered, nor answered any of the questions above.</description>
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		<title>WilliamComment on 9 Questions That Stump Every Pro-Vaccine Advocate by </title>
		<link>http://www.parentsplace.ca/2011/01/9-questions-that-stump-every-pro-vaccine-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-1251</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is some dangerous misinformation you are spreading.</description>
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		<title>Parents PlaceComment on 9 Questions That Stump Every Pro-Vaccine Advocate by </title>
		<link>http://www.parentsplace.ca/2011/01/9-questions-that-stump-every-pro-vaccine-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-1250</link>
		<dc:creator>Parents Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spend more time looking at both sides of the story.</description>
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		<title>JasonComment on 9 Questions That Stump Every Pro-Vaccine Advocate by </title>
		<link>http://www.parentsplace.ca/2011/01/9-questions-that-stump-every-pro-vaccine-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-1249</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 02:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are amazingly ill-informed.  All vaccines go through a multi-phase system before organizations like the FDA approve them for widespread use.  The first phase? Immunogenicity and safety. Not to mention the fact that new vaccine candidates are first evaluated in an animal model first to judge if the vaccine is safe and effective.  There&#039;s no point immunizing people even with a safe vaccine if it doesn&#039;t show any protective correlates in the animal model.  The first link I clicked on at the bottom was just BS. The doctor at the NIH they claim was saying he had no idea how vaccines worked in the immune system was talking about a very specific new vaccine candidate against HIV, and they weren&#039;t sure why that specific vaccine regimen worked better than the others.  

Let&#039;s pretend there was some truth to this and vaccines were really harmful to a few in a million.  Look at smallpox.  It had a 30% mortality rate! Even if a few are harmed by the &quot;cure&quot;, isn&#039;t that better than 30% of people who contract it dying (keep in mind smallpox was easily spread)?  Now I&#039;m not saying that we shouldn&#039;t improve on vaccines or that we should give people vaccines we know to be harmful.  And although I mock people like you, I truly understand where you&#039;re coming from.  It&#039;s totally natural not to like Big Pharma.  You shouldn&#039;t. They&#039;re assholes. But it doesn&#039;t mean their stuff doesn&#039;t work.  And there&#039;s a lot of good people behind the corporate fat cats who help to improve the world.  Not to mention university and national institutes where you don&#039;t see as much of that capitalist mongering.

Even with diseases that can be perceived as &quot;less harmful&quot;, it&#039;s still important to vaccinate.  There&#039;s a concept called herd immunity; basically the more people who get vaccinated, the less people contract the disease, and the less people who can spread it.  Most people don&#039;t die from influenza and it just sucks for a couple of weeks.  But the elderly, immunocompromised, and young children are vulnerable.  So if I&#039;m vaccinated, that means that no one who is vulnerable can contract it from me and so on.

If you want to read into another side of the story because you don&#039;t want to feel like you&#039;re a sheep believing what others tell you, I fully support you.  But what happens to a lot of people is that they just end up believing the other side of the story just because those proponents are telling them what to believe.  Read facts, not opinions, and decide for yourself.  Just remember, when you don&#039;t, and allow idiots like Jenny McCarthy and Andrew Wakefield make your opinions for you, people die.  That is, more people die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are amazingly ill-informed.  All vaccines go through a multi-phase system before organizations like the FDA approve them for widespread use.  The first phase? Immunogenicity and safety. Not to mention the fact that new vaccine candidates are first evaluated in an animal model first to judge if the vaccine is safe and effective.  There&#8217;s no point immunizing people even with a safe vaccine if it doesn&#8217;t show any protective correlates in the animal model.  The first link I clicked on at the bottom was just BS. The doctor at the NIH they claim was saying he had no idea how vaccines worked in the immune system was talking about a very specific new vaccine candidate against HIV, and they weren&#8217;t sure why that specific vaccine regimen worked better than the others.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s pretend there was some truth to this and vaccines were really harmful to a few in a million.  Look at smallpox.  It had a 30% mortality rate! Even if a few are harmed by the &#8220;cure&#8221;, isn&#8217;t that better than 30% of people who contract it dying (keep in mind smallpox was easily spread)?  Now I&#8217;m not saying that we shouldn&#8217;t improve on vaccines or that we should give people vaccines we know to be harmful.  And although I mock people like you, I truly understand where you&#8217;re coming from.  It&#8217;s totally natural not to like Big Pharma.  You shouldn&#8217;t. They&#8217;re assholes. But it doesn&#8217;t mean their stuff doesn&#8217;t work.  And there&#8217;s a lot of good people behind the corporate fat cats who help to improve the world.  Not to mention university and national institutes where you don&#8217;t see as much of that capitalist mongering.</p>
<p>Even with diseases that can be perceived as &#8220;less harmful&#8221;, it&#8217;s still important to vaccinate.  There&#8217;s a concept called herd immunity; basically the more people who get vaccinated, the less people contract the disease, and the less people who can spread it.  Most people don&#8217;t die from influenza and it just sucks for a couple of weeks.  But the elderly, immunocompromised, and young children are vulnerable.  So if I&#8217;m vaccinated, that means that no one who is vulnerable can contract it from me and so on.</p>
<p>If you want to read into another side of the story because you don&#8217;t want to feel like you&#8217;re a sheep believing what others tell you, I fully support you.  But what happens to a lot of people is that they just end up believing the other side of the story just because those proponents are telling them what to believe.  Read facts, not opinions, and decide for yourself.  Just remember, when you don&#8217;t, and allow idiots like Jenny McCarthy and Andrew Wakefield make your opinions for you, people die.  That is, more people die.</p>
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		<title>JoComment on Do You CHOOSE To Vaccinate? by </title>
		<link>http://www.parentsplace.ca/2011/03/do-you-choose-to-vaccinate/comment-page-1/#comment-1243</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 01:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with you.
I am filing out the same forms.
No more vaccines!</description>
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I am filing out the same forms.<br />
No more vaccines!</p>
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		<title>CCTV SupplierComment on The UK Wants to See YOUR Children Naked. Refuse and you’re a TERRORIST! by </title>
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		<dc:creator>CCTV Supplier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 02:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UK Wants to See YOUR Children Naked. Refuse and you’re a TERRORIST! </description>
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		<title>NicoleComment on Can you believe people believed in injecting toxic substances into living beings and called that healing? by </title>
		<link>http://www.parentsplace.ca/2011/07/can-you-believe-people-believed-in-injecting-toxic-substances-into-living-beings-and-called-that-healing/comment-page-1/#comment-1005</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are idiots. It is because of stupid, brainless morons like yourselves that viruses that should have been eradicated years ago are still alive and thriving. VACCINES HELP PEOPLE TO LIVE-PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES WANT TO HELP PEOPLE, NOT KILL THEM. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY!!!!!!! I am doing research on vaccines, and when my class (of 15-year olds) all saw the clear evidence that vaccines save lives, they were astounded that people can be so stupid as to believe that vaccines are bad. My parents both work for Pharmaceutical companies, are you saying that my parents are evil people involved in some big &quot;lets kill children and animals&quot; plot? I can&#039;t believe that all you stupid old people still believe in such outdated and idiotic ideas. One day my generation will be in charge and we will have to work hard to undo all the damage that you and people like you have caused us to suffer from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are idiots. It is because of stupid, brainless morons like yourselves that viruses that should have been eradicated years ago are still alive and thriving. VACCINES HELP PEOPLE TO LIVE-PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES WANT TO HELP PEOPLE, NOT KILL THEM. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY!!!!!!! I am doing research on vaccines, and when my class (of 15-year olds) all saw the clear evidence that vaccines save lives, they were astounded that people can be so stupid as to believe that vaccines are bad. My parents both work for Pharmaceutical companies, are you saying that my parents are evil people involved in some big &#8220;lets kill children and animals&#8221; plot? I can&#8217;t believe that all you stupid old people still believe in such outdated and idiotic ideas. One day my generation will be in charge and we will have to work hard to undo all the damage that you and people like you have caused us to suffer from.</p>
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		<title>Parents PlaceComment on Gay is a Sickness, like Alcoholism by </title>
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		<dc:creator>Parents Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You reference the Bible a lot. What does the Quran say? Or the Donghak? Or the Sutra? Or the Torah ? Or the Barton Cylinder? I could list religious texts all day - in fact there is an area of wikipedia just for this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_text).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You reference the Bible a lot. What does the Quran say? Or the Donghak? Or the Sutra? Or the Torah ? Or the Barton Cylinder? I could list religious texts all day &#8211; in fact there is an area of wikipedia just for this (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_text" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_text</a>).</p>
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		<title>HowardComment on Gay is a Sickness, like Alcoholism by </title>
		<link>http://www.parentsplace.ca/2010/01/gay-is-a-sickness-like-alcoholism/comment-page-1/#comment-1000</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bible says that being gay is a sin if acted upon.There is no middle ground either in the Old Testament or the New;but so is sex between a man and a woman that are not married which is called fornication in the Bible. If one or both is married it is called adultry.
So both sides are covered here! Sin is sin.
&quot;It is appointed for a person [gay or hetro] to die once and after that the judgement.&quot;
Disagree or not the Bible says It does not matter who one is ALL will be judged or their thoughts,words and deeds.
You don&#039;t go to this judgement because you are gay you will be judged for sin,regardless what you are.
Here is one standard,&quot;To the person who knows to do good and does it not to them it is sin.&quot;
That&#039;s why God sent Jesus to save us as no one gay or straight can hold up to this one rule alone!

Now if one is gay they should have all the rights and privileges as anyone else in any country they may reside. If not they have to fight for those rights and hopefully they will win in time. All causes had to be fought for over the years.

&quot;For God so loved everyone [gay or straight!] that He gave His only begotten Son so that all who believe in Him should not go to the judgement, but have everlasting life.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bible says that being gay is a sin if acted upon.There is no middle ground either in the Old Testament or the New;but so is sex between a man and a woman that are not married which is called fornication in the Bible. If one or both is married it is called adultry.<br />
So both sides are covered here! Sin is sin.<br />
&#8220;It is appointed for a person [gay or hetro] to die once and after that the judgement.&#8221;<br />
Disagree or not the Bible says It does not matter who one is ALL will be judged or their thoughts,words and deeds.<br />
You don&#8217;t go to this judgement because you are gay you will be judged for sin,regardless what you are.<br />
Here is one standard,&#8221;To the person who knows to do good and does it not to them it is sin.&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s why God sent Jesus to save us as no one gay or straight can hold up to this one rule alone!</p>
<p>Now if one is gay they should have all the rights and privileges as anyone else in any country they may reside. If not they have to fight for those rights and hopefully they will win in time. All causes had to be fought for over the years.</p>
<p>&#8220;For God so loved everyone [gay or straight!] that He gave His only begotten Son so that all who believe in Him should not go to the judgement, but have everlasting life.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Liz CComment on 10 More Reasons to Question Vaccines by </title>
		<link>http://www.parentsplace.ca/2011/01/10-more-reasons-to-question-vaccines/comment-page-1/#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This irresponsible list cites no research, and I have reason to question the education/intelligence level of whoever wrote it (&quot;... more than one dos.&quot;). 

I will spare you an exhaustive critique of the flawed logic, but I have listed a couple of rebuttals as follows: 
#1. While there is a subset of people who become sick despite vaccination, they are in a tiny minority. Most of the cases of measles in recent outbreaks (not out breaks) were unvaccinated children.
#2. Illness injuries can also be for life. Ref: Franklin D. Roosevelt, or the kids from #1 with measles-induced brain damage.
#3. Many chemotherapy patients, blood transfusion recipients, and I dare I say it, vaccinated children would beg to differ. Also, this is a prime example of non-scientific writing. #3 is an opinion, not a fact. 
#4. Ditto the chemotherapy patients.

I could go on, but suffice it to say, this sloppy list is uninformed hype and propaganda. 

I by NO MEANS endorse blind faith in doctors or public health officials. Parents should responsibly inform themselves by researching reputable work (The Vaccine Book by Dr. Sears is a great place to start). Just don&#039;t listen to people who clearly have no clue what they are talking about. 
#5. So</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This irresponsible list cites no research, and I have reason to question the education/intelligence level of whoever wrote it (&#8220;&#8230; more than one dos.&#8221;). </p>
<p>I will spare you an exhaustive critique of the flawed logic, but I have listed a couple of rebuttals as follows:<br />
#1. While there is a subset of people who become sick despite vaccination, they are in a tiny minority. Most of the cases of measles in recent outbreaks (not out breaks) were unvaccinated children.<br />
#2. Illness injuries can also be for life. Ref: Franklin D. Roosevelt, or the kids from #1 with measles-induced brain damage.<br />
#3. Many chemotherapy patients, blood transfusion recipients, and I dare I say it, vaccinated children would beg to differ. Also, this is a prime example of non-scientific writing. #3 is an opinion, not a fact.<br />
#4. Ditto the chemotherapy patients.</p>
<p>I could go on, but suffice it to say, this sloppy list is uninformed hype and propaganda. </p>
<p>I by NO MEANS endorse blind faith in doctors or public health officials. Parents should responsibly inform themselves by researching reputable work (The Vaccine Book by Dr. Sears is a great place to start). Just don&#8217;t listen to people who clearly have no clue what they are talking about.<br />
#5. So</p>
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